Sunday, December 20, 2015

The True Origin of the Angels and the Fall of Satan

There is a popular tradition that before the creation of Adam, or at the time of his creation, Satan and a third of the angels rebelled against God and were cast out of heaven.  It is thought by some that this is described in the 12th chapter of the book of Revelation, in which the dragon and his angels are cast out of heaven.  However this interpretation is problematic, as the book of Revelation concerns the final state of the Christian church, not the past.  Many will be surprised to learn that the story of the 'Fall of Satan" or Lucifer does not come from the Bible, but from traditions built over time.  It is nowhere mentioned in scripture.  The closest we get in Jewish tradition is from the apocryphal book of Enoch which was written some time in the 3rd or 2nd century B.C., which discusses a fall of the angels known as "sons of God" in antediluvian times, who mated with women and produced giants (see Gen. 6:1-4).  The book was never made part of scripture, and the notion that angels have actual physical bodies was rejected by Jewish rabbis in the 1st or 2nd century A.D.  This "fall of the angels" is different, as it does not include an individual Devil or Satan and occurred after the time of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

So where does the story of the fall of Lucifer come from?  One theory is it actually comes from an early church father Origen who lived in the 2nd and 3rd centuries A.D.  From Fallen Angel:
The fall of Lucifer finds its earliest identification with a fallen angel in Origen, based on an interpretation of Isaiah 14:1–17, which describes a king of Babylon as a fallen morning star (in Hebrew, הילל ). When this description was mis-interpreted as regarding an angel, not a human king, the image of the fallen morning star or angel was applied to Satan both in Jewish pseudepigrapha and by early Christian writers, following the transfer of the Lucifer myth to Satan in the pre-Christian century. Origen and other Christian writers linked the fallen morning star of Isaiah 14:12 to Jesus' statement in Luke 10:18, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" and to the mention of a fall of Satan in Revelation 12:8–9. In Latin-speaking Christianity, the Latin word lucifer, employed in the late 4th-century AD Vulgate to translate הילל, gave rise to the name "Lucifer" for the person believed to be referred to in the text. Orthodox Judaism does not believe the name Lucifer is a reference to Satan but rather the text in chapter four indicates that it is a literal taunt against the King of Babylon. 
So from there, the "fall of Lucifer" then enters into Christian tradition, some extending it to a prophecy of the king of Tyre (see Eze. 28:13-14).  However there is a slightly older tradition from the Slavonic book of Enoch, sometimes known as 2 Enoch, which was written in the 1st century A.D.  In it, Enoch is taken up into heaven and God tests the angels by having them bow down before Enoch.  A group of angels, under the leadership of "Satanail" refuse and are then imprisoned until they obey.  Even before this, there is an ancient religious teaching of the Yazidi religion, in which one of the seven primary angels, Melek Taus, refuses to bow down to Adam and for that is rewarded by God.  He is also called "Shaytan," and thus Muslims have confused Melek Taus with Satan.  From there, a similar story found its way into the Quran in Islam, in which it is Satan himself who refuses to bow down to Adam.

So, the tradition has a convoluted history.  Was there any fall of a primary Devil or Satan?  Swedenborg wondered about this, and in the revelations he received from heaven he was told it was not true - all angels and demons originate from the human race:
"In the Christian world it is quite unknown that heaven and hell are from the human race, for it is believed that angels were created from the beginning and of them was formed heaven; and that the devil or satan was an angel of light, but because he became rebellious he was cast down with his crew, and of them was formed hell. Angels wonder exceedingly that there should be such a belief in the Christian world, and still more that nothing at all should be known about heaven, when yet that is the primary thing of doctrine in the Church; and because such ignorance prevails, they rejoice in heart that it has pleased the Lord now to reveal to mankind many things respecting heaven, and also hell, and thereby as far as possible to dispel the darkness which is daily increasing, because the Church has come to its end. They wish for this reason that I should declare from their mouth, that in the whole heaven there is not one angel who was so created from the beginning, nor in hell any devil who was created an angel of light and cast down; but that all, both in heaven and in hell, are from the human race; in heaven those who lived in the world in heavenly love and faith, in hell those who lived in infernal love and faith; and that hell taken as a whole is what is called the devil and satan." (Heaven and Hell, n. 311, see also Origin of the Angels)
So the tradition of the fall of Satan and his angels is just that - a tradition - and it happens to not be true, or at best, a useful metaphor.  Not only that, but there is no such thing as an individual Devil or Satan, but rather these are terms of symbolic personifications of hell in general.  Thus the "fall of Satan" happens when each person of their own free will turns and rebels against God and His commandments.  The serpent in the Garden of Eden is a symbolic representation of how the ancient race of Adam fell, when they were tempted to regard themselves as gods.

After death, each individual is destined to become an angel or demon in heaven and hell, according to their own free will.  At times, angels manifest themselves when we come close to life or death.  Here is a remarkable documentary concerning a group of children who were saved by their guardian angels:


  1. I am witness in seeing Matt24:15 the image in churches 2thess2:4. Alert message for Christians, Catholics, and anyone believing in Jesus Christ to escape Judgment of God coming quickly to worship buildings known as "Churches" across the Nations 1Peter4:17-18; Rev13:8,And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
    My name is Deborah. I am a real Jesus Christ believer and witness with a testimony in seeing Matt24:15. My testimony on video called "Christ testimony of the churches around the world". Just google title of video.

    I am witness in seeing the beast ascended out of the pit and in spiritual perdition as I send message and my testimony to churches across the Nations.

    Satan appearing as image of Jesus Christ blaspheming the word of God with false teachings and ordaining men and women into false disciples, teachers, priests, prophets, and preachers doing lying signs, and wonders deceiving themselves and leading people into worship buildings that is an identical strait gate going directly into destruction Matt24:23-24;Luke 21:24!

    I am witness seeing two identical images of Jesus Christ but only one is the true Messiah. There are two identical strait gates but only one leads to eternal life Matt7:13-14!

    Satan has been taking on the image of the son of God to deceive the nations in trying to stop his judgment and hold back the true promise and Kingdom of God. This is found in Luke Chpt4;2Thess2:4;Is14:14;Dan7:25-26!

    Abominations are found in buildings made like original temple for worshiping God Ezk8:3;Dan9:27;Dan11:45;Is14:13.

    All churches visibly practice temple worship according to first covenant Rev18:22-24;Acts17:24-25;Heb8:7;Rom10:2;Philip3:3;Is5:13!

    This abomination of desolation spoken of Daniel is happening in spirit realm where false teachings and temple worship have increased known as “The Falling Away” allowing this image to spiritually deceive people believing the "Lie" has reach where Christ is seated Rev11:1-2;Dan8:10-11; Is14:12;Rev13:8;2Thess2:10!

    1. The "abomination of desolation" represents the church in its final state, when there is no longer any good or truth in the church, as it has been destroyed by falsities. Matt. 24:15 is explained by Swedenborg as follows:

      "According to the internal sense the signification is this: "When therefore ye shall see the abomination of desolation" signifies the vastation of the church, which occurs when the Lord is no longer acknowledged, consequently when there is no love and no faith in Him; also when there is no longer any charity toward the neighbor; and consequently when there is not any faith of good and truth. When this is the case in the church, or rather in the land where the Word is possessed and read — that is, when men are such in the thoughts of the heart, even if not such in the teaching of the lips — then there is desolation, and the particulars just now mentioned are its abomination" (Heavenly Arcana, n. 3652)

      "Heavenly Arcana" (Heavenly Secrets) actually is a huge volume, and contains a very detailed analysis of the prophecy of Matthew 24. The corruption of the Christian Church began with the Nicene Council of the 4th century A.D., the revelations of the New Church seeks to restore true Christianity.

  2. Many church leaders and Bible scholars do not know Holy Bible contains a mixture of counterfeit scriptures that has covered up the truth about God and the man Jesus Christ.

    When and how did this all happen? During end of 1st Century AD certain men who establish the Roman Catholic Church counterfeited Torah Isaiah 9:5 into KJV Isaiah 9:6.This change of prophecy and the truth about God is according to Rev13:18;Rev 22:18.

    Here is original prophecy of Messsiah in Torah Isaiah 9:5,For a child has been born to us, a Son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, CALLED his name, "the prince of peace."

    Here is original prophecy of Messiah Torah Isaiah 9:5 changed into KJV Isaiah 9:6, For to us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be CALLED Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    This is Roms1:25, Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen

    We cannot serve God and man Matt6:24; 1Tit2:5;John3:8;John4:23.When these certain men changed Holy Scriptures of Messiah they added and took away words of prophecy making God into a man. Thereby teaching Jesus is God/man and came by virgin birth of a spirit, angel. When in truth Num23:19 God is not a man nor does he think like a man Isaiah55:9!
    In Heb2:16 Jesus Christ the Messiah is 100% human, who came into this world like we did according to the flesh born of Joseph, son of David and MaryRom1:3;Rom8:3. God only open the womb of Mary. The true story Joseph was thinking of privately divorcing Mary because she bare no children after so many years of marriage. During ancient Judaism, Jews married at 12 years plus one day. Mary was still a young woman but barren and Joseph was pressed by the Rabbis to fulfill the law of God in Genesis 1:28. So it is known that a male Jew would divorce his wife if she did not produce offspring within a few years and then remarry another. In Joseph’s case God sent angel to inform Joseph not to divorce Mary. She will conceive and bare a son, who will be the Messiah, King of Israel according to the promise God gave to King David. Joseph did has the Lord said and took Mary is wife and was intimate with her. After those days God sent an angel to Mary that she will have a son who will be the Messiah King of Israel. The angel of God confirms with Mary that Joseph, son of David did pass seed in her womb and God open it for conception and that Elizabeth her cousin who also was barren has hidden herself from letting anyone know she is pregnant during her old age because with God nothing is impossible. Please read Judges Chpt 13.

    1. In the revelations of the New Church, Jehovah became incarnate in human form through Mary. The human form was human in every way, and had inherited sinful tendencies through the human mother. However the soul of Jesus was Divine and could not commit any sin - thus in the human form, a spiritual battle arose between Jehovah and all of hell. This continued until Jesus conquered and was glorified. When he rose from the dead, he put off the human body, and put on a Divine one derived from Jehovah, becoming a complete Divine Human. Until that happened He did not reveal his true identity to anyone, including his disciples. This is described in the work, "Doctrine of the Lord." Unfortunately this truth has been lost to the Christian church, except it is taught in an obscure way among the Orthodox churches.

      As for the corruption of scriptures, textual criticism does not show it has been altered in the way as many claim, but that is a larger topic of discussion. I have compared the Septuagint Psalms with the Masoretic Psalms, and scripture has been remarkably preserved - I would say about 99%. It is not 100%, one can see some better readings preserved in the Septuagint, at least for the Psalms.

  3. Gal 4:4-5, But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a man and woman Gen1:28, made under the law, to redeem THEM that were under the law, that WE might receive the adoption of sons Gal3:10, 13.

    True teaching of the Messiah according to original written prophecy he would be born according to the seed of David 1Chr17:11. The man Jesus became 14th great grandson of King David Matt12:23;Matt21:15.

    The “Virgin Birth” teaching was created by the Roman Catholic Church by adding and taking away words of prophecy concerning Messiah both in the Torah and true testimonies of the disciples of Jesus Christ the Messiah.

    This "Mother" church of all churches spread out upon the Earth is known as Rev 17:5 and the fourth kingdom on the earth Dan7:23;Dan11:45;Is34:11-14;Matt24:26.

    We are about to enter Great Tribulation which is the “Last Days”. During those days God brings spiritual judgment “Plagues” upon this Mother church and all her churches who hold the cup of the Lord Jer51:7;Rev17:1-4; 1Cor10:21;Luke11:39;Rev 18:4-5!

    This message is not a joke. God is calling his people come out of worship buildings and get into prayer for your household to receive prophecy Joel 2:28-29. This is according to ‘Shavuot” known as the Feast of weeks. It marks the all-important wheat harvest. Also found in Dan 12:10;Acts 2;Rev 7:1-3;Rev9:14-15.

    The Spirit of God comes upon all flesh starting with the first fruits of the harvest and then upon all those whom the lord invites or whoever calls upon the Lord throughout the Earth Ezk 9:3-6. Then comes Joel 2:30;Acts 2:19 which is Rev 9:4 the beginning of plagues upon the people in churches worshiping the image to prepare and fight against God Rev 16:14. Then comes the spiritual battle of Rev19;Rev 6:15-17 which is Joel 2:1l . God sends his son first in spirit relam to remove the image from its seat and false prophecies by giving Jesus Christ a new name that no man knows Rev 19:12;Matt7:22;Matt24:23-24!

  4. During that time in natural realm comes Joel 2:10;Joel 3:15;Rev8:12. During those days Rev 20:8-9 comes to pass in sequence of the spiritual battle after image remove and cast into the burning lake of fire Dan 7:11! Then come Messiah appearing in natural realm Rev1:7;Acts1:11 with the fire of God behind him Rev 20:9. As the Messiah is coming Shofar is sounding 1Cor15:52; John5:28-29. Before Messiah dead rising out of the earth and sea some to eternal heavenly body and some to eternal sinful flesh. Behind Messiah is fire of God consuming all sinful flesh, works of flesh and the earth itself destroying works of Satan Luk3:17;Matt25:44;Gal 5:19-21;Rev21:27;Rev12:9;Rev13:8;2Thess2:8.

    This message is for real and I am telling the truth! Don't be spiritually trapped in these worship buildings under judgment of God 1Thess5:3;2Pet2:18;luk 21:24;Rev11:1-2;Joel1:13-15. I am a real person. I was involved, dedicated with these churches inside and out for most of my life believing I was doing the will of God and receiving the right teachings of the Messiah Jesus Christ. I know these churches and how they operate and teach from pulpit to the out side missionaries. All churches are the same as the "Mother" just a different method to cover up the truth that people are serving the creature more than the "Creator".

    I prayed for two years faithfully asking God for the truth about these churches, their leaders and the people in them.

    Now I have a testimony how Spirit of God came to me and revealed the truth about these churches, their leaders and the people in them according to prophecies hidden in the Holy scriptures.

    You ask what religion? Religion will not be acceptable before Christ to get to the Father. The churches do not teach the daily sacrifice because they have the wrong teachings of the Messiah. The Roman Catholic Church took original prophecies/teachings of the Messiah and counterfeited them to hold back the true Kingdom Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to OTHER PEOPLE, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

  5. Who are these OTHER PEOPLE? the fulfillment of the gentiles handling the word of God Matt24:24 and treading underfoot the son of God proclaiming not the daily sacrifice which is the sufferings and death of Jesus Christ body and on the third day the Spirit of God raised Jesus Christ from the dead. The disciples proclaimed nothing else but the daily sacrifice to save the people from their iniquities. This is the power of God to destroy all the works, plans, and power of death of Satan AND put to death all works of flesh. There are no other teachings, programs, seminars, schools, etc. than the daily sacrifice that bring God's power to save the people or bring manifestations of signs and wonders.
    In Dan 7 mentions the devil covering up true written Holy scriptures of Torah concerning true teachings of the Messiah but Spirit of God shall prevail for his chosen people and when 3.5 years is up the truth shall be known and the chosen people of God shall take back that Kingdom mentioned in Dan 2:44. The 3.5 years is almost finished. Soon the truth shall be published and made known to the world. Revelation 11 is about to be finished in the spirit world of That "Great City". Then comes prophecy Joel then comes immediately Great Tribulation. There is no rapture before or during those days until ended Dan 12:10;Matt 24:29.

    I strongly advised to leave these churches and their teachings get into prayer and be ready for Prophecy Joel to escape wrath of God Revelation 9. I am telling the truth hear my testimony on video called "Christ testimony of the churches around the world". All Christian churches are the same as "Mother" Roman Catholic Church. They all teach virgin birth and celebrate December 25th. This is Revelation 13:7-8, And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations and all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    1. Revelation 12-13 is actually focused on the Protestant churches, who have falsely separated faith from charity. Revelation 17-18 concerns the Roman Catholic Church. If one does look at the theology of the two branches, under the external rituals they are the same. Take a look at "Apocalypse Revealed" by Emanuel Swedenborg. I have personally left the Protestant church long ago, after having discovered the revelations of the New Church. Take a look at it, you will not be disappointed.


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