tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030257666913290314.post6655060484361778048..comments2024-03-11T07:53:25.838-04:00Comments on Spirituality, Dreams and Prophecy: The Origin and Cause of Demoniac and Poltergeist ActivityDoug Webberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11071107950046910342noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030257666913290314.post-60345723514261159352019-09-22T05:11:23.880-04:002019-09-22T05:11:23.880-04:00When you look at what swedenborg knew regarding sp...When you look at what swedenborg knew regarding spirits lying do you find it surprising that people who believe Theosophy, New age , and over beliefs like that could even think that the voices they are hearing / heard could even remotely be good entities rather than lying spirits ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030257666913290314.post-37953284222213155932019-07-28T17:54:48.334-04:002019-07-28T17:54:48.334-04:00In "The Demonologist," Ed Warren does wa...In "The Demonologist," Ed Warren does warn against Ouiji boards, and had seen cases where an evil spirit made use of it to obtain permission to infest a target.<br /><br />As for channeled material most of it is worthless, but it does seem to be coming from a source other than the person who is channeling. There is a passage where Swedenborg seems to describe these kinds of spirits from his unpublished diary:<br /><br />"When spirits begin to speak with a person, one must take care not to believe them at all, for almost everything they say, they have made up, and they are lying. If for example they are allowed to tell what heaven is like, and how matters stand in the heavens, they would tell so many lies, with great assurance, that the person would be astounded. Therefore, I was not allowed to give credence to the spirits who were speaking in regard to anything they told. 1748, 20 March.<br />For they are very fond of fabricating, and whenever any topic of conversation is raised, they think they know all about it, and express their opinions about it one after the other, as if they knew exactly; and if anyone then listens to them and believes them, then they press on, and in various ways trick and mislead the person.<br />Or if they are allowed to tell about things to come, about things unknown in the whole heaven, about anything whatever that a person hopes for, then everything, as it is from themselves, they would say untruthfully. So such persons must take care not to believe them, this being the reason why the condition of speaking with spirits on this planet is most dangerous, unless one has true belief. They bring on such a strong persuasion that it is the Lord Himself speaking and commanding, that the person cannot help but believe, and obey." (Spiritual Experiences, n. 1622)<br /><br />So in general the information is worthless and not true. That said, keep in mind that this is the case for the majority of cases involving channeled information. I have not seen a good scientific study on this, it would be interesting if one could determine if the subject was in a trancelike or hypnotic state. I have seen cases, a minority, where this is used as a means of communication from extraterrestrial sources, who have perhaps made use of it as a means of communicating over vast distances. In other cases, a minority, the source may have been a spirit that was good but again one had to use judgment in the information that is given.<br /><br />This sort of contact is generally not permitted due to the selfish and evil nature of most people, but for those who have true belief in the Lord, and live by his commandments, such contact is permitted. But like Swedenborg one has to use discernment in the information given.Doug Webberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071107950046910342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9030257666913290314.post-56161729890540468612019-07-27T07:08:41.713-04:002019-07-27T07:08:41.713-04:00Hi Doug
I know many new age movement beliefs com...Hi Doug <br /><br />I know many new age movement beliefs come from channeled material, what is your opinion on channelled material like The seth material and the channeled material of Abraham, to me they don’t ring true because their are inconsistencies and many parts don’t make sense unlike Swedenborg, <br /><br />Plus they used occult means to communicate as both used Ouiji boards Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com